Dr. Louis Cozolino has diverse clinical and research interests and hold degrees in philosophy, theology, and clinical psychology. His interests are in the areas of the synthesis of neuroscience with psychotherapy, education, management, and leadership. He is the author of seven books The Neuroscience of Psychotherapy, The Social Neuroscience of Education, The Neuroscience of Human Relationships, The Healthy Aging Brain, Attachment-Based Teaching, The Making of a Therapist, and Why Therapy Works. He has also authored and co-authored articles and book chapters on child abuse, schizophrenia, education, language and cognition. Dr. Cozolino lectures around the world on brain development, evolution, and psychotherapy and maintains and clinical and consulting practice in Los Angeles.
Dr. Cozolino holds degrees in philosophy, theology, and clinical psychology and focuses on the synthesis of neuroscience psychotherapy, education, management, and leadership. Dr. Cozolino lectures around the world on brain development, evolution, and psychotherapy and maintains and clinical and consulting practice in Los Angeles.
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Your talk with Dr Cozolino had some fine gems in it. I especially liked the zen like simile with the rats and the bread tunnel. Food (no pun intended) for thought!
But one thing he said really left me puzzled. He talked about the left and right brain as if they represented somewhat of an superego/ego vs. id dichotomy—which is nothing like what I learned in the Psych program just a few years ago, and nothing like any of your previous neuroscience guests (as far as I remember) have claimed. I wish you would have pushed him harder on that topic and asked for more indepth explanations. If he’s right, that’s a big game changer, at least for me. I know that the previous notion of the ’logical’ left brain vs. the ’intuitive’ right brain turned out to be a bit over-simplified, but I figured there was at least a grain of truth in it. I may be out on a layman limb here, but what Cozolino talks about sounds more like the neocortex vs limbic brain than a left—right brain thing. What do you think?
Oskar, I wondered the same thing but didn’t comment on it in the interview. I emailed Dr. Cozolino for clarification. Here is his reply:
“The answer would take a book. The short version is that the brain is not cleanly organized top down or left right – it is more right/down and left/front as I describe in my boo, Neuroscience of Psychotherapy. The Freudian subconscious lives in ancient right/down networks that integrate primitive reflexes, emotions, and early implicit memory in circuits that feed information to parietal-frontal-cingulate-insula networks in charge of executive functioning and conscious awareness.
The neurodynamics are hard to explain if someone wants a straightforward answer for where something happens – it’s too complicated and occult to surrender its secret that easily.
I’m working on Neurooscience of Psychotherapy 3 which will have 4 chapters on executive functioning where I’ll try to put the pieces together. And I’m sure it will still be woefully inadequate.
Any of this compute?
Warmly,
Lou”