#451 – The Role of Traumatic Narcissism in Cults, Families, and Nations with Daniel Shaw LCSW

Daniel Shaw, LCSW is a psychoanalytically oriented psychotherapist in private practice in New York City, and in Nyack, New York. He is a training analyst, teacher and supervisor of analytic candidates at the National Institute for the Psychotherapies in New York City, and on the Faculty of the Westchester Center for the Study of Psychoanalysis and Psychotherapy in New York.

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5 Comments

Maia on April 16, 2015 at 12:44 pm

Thank you Dr Dave for this timely interview. It was very helpful to listen to Daniel Shaw’s experience as someone who just herself came out of a traumatic exposure to a cult.

Penny on April 30, 2015 at 5:18 pm

I was a member of the same group that Daniel belonged to. I joined in 1992 and left in ’07. The confusion and guilt that I felt at the leaving which took me almost 8 years to complete was alleviated considerably by
Dan’s and other “ex’s” blogs and websites that I found on the ‘net. It was from his early work that I began to deconstruct the programming I had received. Any other devotees with whom I had shared friendships dropped me like “a hot potato” as my awarenesses frightened and challenged them. Denial and refusal to see the clear disconnects between the Guru’s actions, teachings and back channel hypocrisies was the hallmark of most of us. The clearest stratagems used to keep the illusions in place were gaslighting, projection and emotional isolation. Thanks, Dr. Dave for this fascinating interview. I’m looking forward to the delivery of my book!

Van Nuys on April 30, 2015 at 5:37 pm

Penny, I suggest you watch the HBO documentary Going Clear:Scientology. Even though it’s about Scientology, I think you’ll find some similar dynamics.

Kat on May 11, 2015 at 1:36 pm

Which group did he join? It sounds like Ananda, which I went to something of theirs once and it creeped me out.

Van Nuys on May 11, 2015 at 2:29 pm

Hi Kat, inasmuch as he wasn’t comfortable sharing it publicly, I won’t comment on that. But you could always try tracking him down on the Internet and asking him privately. — Dr. Dave

Maia on April 16, 2015 at 12:44 pm

Thank you Dr Dave for this timely interview. It was very helpful to listen to Daniel Shaw’s experience as someone who just herself came out of a traumatic exposure to a cult.
Penny on April 30, 2015 at 5:18 pm

I was a member of the same group that Daniel belonged to. I joined in 1992 and left in ’07. The confusion and guilt that I felt at the leaving which took me almost 8 years to complete was alleviated considerably by
Dan’s and other “ex’s” blogs and websites that I found on the ‘net. It was from his early work that I began to deconstruct the programming I had received. Any other devotees with whom I had shared friendships dropped me like “a hot potato” as my awarenesses frightened and challenged them. Denial and refusal to see the clear disconnects between the Guru’s actions, teachings and back channel hypocrisies was the hallmark of most of us. The clearest stratagems used to keep the illusions in place were gaslighting, projection and emotional isolation. Thanks, Dr. Dave for this fascinating interview. I’m looking forward to the delivery of my book!
Van Nuys on April 30, 2015 at 5:37 pm

Penny, I suggest you watch the HBO documentary Going Clear:Scientology. Even though it’s about Scientology, I think you’ll find some similar dynamics.
Kat on May 11, 2015 at 1:36 pm

Which group did he join? It sounds like Ananda, which I went to something of theirs once and it creeped me out.
Van Nuys on May 11, 2015 at 2:29 pm

Hi Kat, inasmuch as he wasn’t comfortable sharing it publicly, I won’t comment on that. But you could always try tracking him down on the Internet and asking him privately. — Dr. Dave