#577 –Depression and The Change Triangle with Hilary Jacobs Hendel

Hilary Jacobs, MSW is a certified psychoanalyst and AEDP (Accelerated Experiential Dynamic Psychotherapy) psychotherapist and supervisor, specializing in trauma and emotions. She has published articles in The New York Times and professional journals. Her blog posts have been shared worldwide. She runs a private practice in New York City and was the Mental Health Consultant for the Emmy and Golden Globe-winning show Mad Men.

HIlary’s background is in the biological sciences. A native New Yorker, Hilary graduated from the Bronx High School of Science and went on to receive a BA in Biochemistry from Wesleyan University. Hilary graduated with a doctoral degree from Columbia University where she learned about neuroscience. Several years later, Hilary decided to become a psychotherapist. She received her MSW from Fordham University and competed a 4-year certification in psychoanalysis and psychoanalytic psychotherapy. Concurrent to her psychoanalytic training, HIlary began studying trauma and emotion centered psychotherapies including AEDP, EMDR, SE and read voraciously on the subject of shame. Hilary became certified in AEDP and is now a certified AEDP Supervisor. Hilary’s current passion is writing for the general public on emotions and a mental health tool she calls The Change Triangle based on AEDP. Her book, “It’s Not Always Depression: Working the Change Triangle to Listen to the Body, Discover Core Emotions and Connect to Your Authentic Self is being published by Random House USA/Canada and Penguin UK in February 2018.

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One Comment

  1. Rich Featherly
    Posted December 9, 2017 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    Another interview well done. This is my favorite interview I’ve heard with Ms. Hendel. Maybe it’s not Depression makes sense when you compare it to a diagnosis like “leg pain”. It’s never just leg pain, it’s leg pain and a broken bone or leg pain and a blood clot etc. In the case of depression, I believe much of it is depression and over-activation of the stress response on the parasympathetic, freeze and submit side. Anxiety is over-activation of the stress response on the sympathetic side.
    Your comments after are spot on, I am one of the many listeners in school to get the “union card”, but expecting to get most of my training from elsewhere. Thanks to you, I’ll be a lot more prepared when I’m done next spring.

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