#564 – The New Mind Body Science of Depression with Charles Raison MD


Charles Raison, MD, is the Mary Sue and Mike Shannon Chair for Healthy Minds, Children & Families and Professor, School of Human Ecology, and Professor, Department of Psychiatry, School of Medicine and Public Health, University of Wisconsin-Madison in Madison, WI. He also serves as Director of Clinical and Translational Research for Usona Institute, as Interim Director of Research in Spiritual Health for Emory University Healthcare and as the Founding Director of the Center for Compassion Studies in the College of Social and Behavioral Sciences at the University of Arizona Dr. Raison is internationally recognized for his studies examining novel mechanisms involved in the development and treatment of major depression and other stress-related emotional and physical conditions, as well as for his work examining the physical and behavioral effects of compassion training. Dr. Raison received the Raymond Pearl Memorial Award from the Human Biology Association “in recognition of his contributions to our understanding of evolutionary biocultural origins of mental health and illness”. Dr. Raison’s book “The New Mind-Body Science of Depression” was published by W.W. Norton in 2017. In addition to these activities, Dr. Raison serves as the mental health expert for CNN.com.

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  1. Gillat
    Posted August 5, 2017 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    Your interview on mind-body is wonderfully confirms scientifically what we practitioners sense intuitively. Tremendously helpful and inspiring

  2. James
    Posted August 6, 2017 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    Thank you ever so much for one of the best interviews I have ever heard. Just the right balance of science and practice. Masterful.

  3. Posted August 11, 2017 at 8:32 am | Permalink

    Hi! I loved your conversation with Charlie. I had the good luck to hear him speak at PsychCongress in Austin a couple of years ago and it was real eye-opener. Fantastic to hear he has a book, and a research book at that. It is on my list and Charlie is always worth listening to. I look forward to the next time I have the opportunity to encounter his work.

    The podcast cut off suddenly at the end? What happened?

    Thanks as always!

  4. Posted August 11, 2017 at 8:36 am | Permalink

    PS – I don’t know if he covers it in his book – but his presentation on the follow up Yale study on SSRIs is essential mental-health care knowledge. The apparent research that SSRIs are only marginally better than placebo has flaws that the follow-up study uncovered. Perhaps many know this – but the follow-up showed clearly that there are responders and non-responders. A doctor should know within two weeks which one a patient is. Double the dose doesn’t help – giving it time doesn’t help. For responders – the SSRI is far better than placebo and shows quick response. For non-responders, the response is neutral at best and chaotic and painful at worst. Average these out and you get placebo level responses. If you like I can dig up the reference – its pretty essential stuff, imho – and Charlie exposed me to it.

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