#339 – Infant Research & Neuroscience Implications for Psychotherapy with Judith Rustin


Judith Rustin, LCSW is the author of Infant Research & Neuroscience at Work in Psychotherapy: Expanding the Clinical Repertoire, just published in 2013 by W. W. Norton. She is also a faculty member and supervising psychoanalyst at the Institute for the Psychoanalytic Study of Subjectivity, New York City, The Psychoanalytic Psychotherapy Study Center, in New York City and The Chinese American Psychoanalytic Association. She has lectured nationally and internationally and published scholarly papers on self-psychology, intersubjectivity systems theory and more recently the interface of infant research and neuroscience with these two psychoanalytic theories. Her published scholarly papers cover these same subjects and areas of expertise with particular emphasis on their application to the therapeutic dyad and the clinical process. In 2005, Other Press published Forms of Intersubjectivity in Infant Research and Adult Treatment, written with collaborators, Beatrice Beebe, Steven Knoblauch and Dorienne Sorter.

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Prior to becoming a Psychoanalyst, Judith was an Assistant Professor, (Field Faculty) at the Columbia University School of Social Work. During that tenure she helped to develop a program that integrated disabled students on a college campus and developed models of programs to insure permanency planning for children.

Currently, she maintains a private practice in New York City.

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  1. Dr. Michael Ocana
    Posted February 20, 2013 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    Fascinating interview.
    In particular enjoyed the examples you both gave from your own lives.
    Rustin offers fascinating perspectives on early life procedural and implicit learning. I was however surprised to hear her relative lack of familiarity with the implications of this for attachment theory.
    Which brings me around to my enthusiasm for your efforts to interview Allan Schore. He would certainly be the best one to address this question.
    I was dismayed to hear that Allan Schore has not returned your correspondence! 🙁

    I will try to get his attention at the upcoming Interpersonal Neurobiology conference at UCLA in a few weeks.
    I will use whatever small amount of influence I can muster to persuade him to give you an interview!

    I am very excited to hear you will be interviewing Antonio Damasio!
    He certainly ranks among the great ones in the recent neuroscientific paradigm shift towards affective and mind-body neuroscience.

  2. dirk
    Posted February 22, 2013 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    not sure how an understanding of the developmental process dynamics of our inter-activity/inter-subjectivity leaves any room for an “authentic” self, what could that mean in such a systems model?

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