#266 – More on Hypnogogia with Jerry Trumbule


Jerry Tumbule, M.S, ABD and I have yet another one of our wide ranging conversations, picking up the thread about sleep, lucid dreaming, and hynogogia more or less where we left off on Shrink Rap radio # 262.

Gerald (Jerry) Trumbule, B.S. Univ. of Md. 1965, M.S. Univ. of Pa., 1970, has been a neuropsychological researcher (Walter Reed Army Institute of Research and NASA, Univ. of Md.) and Assistant Professor of Psychology, Univ. of Toronto, 1970. Disgusted with academia, he moved to Denver in 1971 where he founded Sebastian High School, a grade-less experiential learning center, founded the Western States Film Institute, with two winners of the Student Academy Awards, and, in 1980, founded Denver’s first computer training center (ECC). Now retired and living in obscurity, he is a videographer and blogger (DenverDirect.tv), where he expounds on local politics and pollution. He continues his life-long interest in the workings of the human brain, exploring his own brain through hypnagogia and REM sleep, and hopes someday to upload the contents of his brain directly to the internet.

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  1. R M Salvatore
    Posted June 6, 2011 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    I’ve really been enjoying these Jerry shows. They’re alot of fun.

  2. Kate Thomas
    Posted June 11, 2011 at 6:12 am | Permalink

    Just listened to your latest podcast with Jerry and I was struck by what he said about waking up ‘paralysed’. My son spoke to me a little while ago about waking suddenly and being unable to move. He was very worried about it. I had heard of it though never experienced it myself and told him about the bit of the brain that ‘switches off’ your body in sleep and that sometimes your eyes and ears ‘wake up’ before the rest of you! I have been sleep deprived for years due to having to get up at 5:30 to go to work and never seeming to be able to fit my life into getting to bed early enough! Ah well, maybe when I retire I can get enough sleep AND manage to try this fascinating technique. Keep up the good work and I’ll go and give you a review on iTunes.

  3. Catalin Ivan
    Posted July 1, 2011 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    Hello and congrats for the ongoing sparks of learning and wonder I get from your “show” 🙂
    Sleep is a very interesting topic… I feel it’s about as complex and rich as wakefulness.

    I am wondering if you and/or Jerry T. have any opinions on sleep in various phases during a 24h period. I.e. instead of one continuous block of say 8h you take several “serious” naps during the same 24h period. It is said Leonardo, Churchill and others would sleep is such various “installments” of sleep.

    Thank you and keep it up 🙂


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